Deron Trovall: An open conversation about loss

Deron Trovall joins us to talk about the loss of his wife, followed shortly by the loss of his son. With much love and support, we listen as he shares his story. Deron is resilient and hopes that talking through his loss will increase awareness and perhaps help others through their journeys.

As always, we do manage to find some lighter moments on this show. Deron has lived a life of humor and happiness, and while these losses are with him at all times, he can't help but find ways to enjoy what he still has.

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